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Shipping, thinks Morbane. It's a thing. People seem to care about it. Good for them, they're having fun. I have my crack ships? I guess? But it's nothing to do with me.

Audiovisual canons, thinks Morbane. They are also a thing. Yeah, there's short stuff, like Danger 5, because Danger 5 is its own category, but I'm never really going to be fannish in an involved way about TV and movies. You have to watch things twice or more. The horror. No, I'm over in books and songs. They're my fannish happy place. I am content. I am thriving.

Then I go to see Kingsman: The Secret Service (2015), a Matthew Vaughn adaptation of a Mark Millar comic - hyperviolent action-comedy about spies, and about spy movies.

It is not the most thoughtful movie. Mine is not a general recommendation. It's funny, and, well, it's smart enough for me, and the action sequences are fun and engaging. But: it has got me - I am so unexpectedly in love with this thing - because in the middle of all this candy-corn fun there are mentors and protégés - MULTIPLE SETS EVEN - and they care about each other and sass each other and respect and trust each other -

I don't have words for how joyful this kind of narrative makes me.

A tangent - I'm particularly failing to find the right word to describe the rapport. 'Rapport' is the best I can do. I want to say Colin Firth's and Taron Egerton's characters have chemistry, but doesn't that have too much of a sexual overtone? I mean something platonic. Anyway, they have it. [I definitely ship them, but I'm happy shipping it because it's platonic in the movie. It's the intensity of trust and need - I find this so much easier to project into than a romantic narrative - or something. I don't entirely understand my own brain. The keyword is trust, I think.]

So Joel & Paul and I went to see it on Thursday night, and I floated around on Cloud Nine, and wheedled A & 20thcenturyvole into letting me see it with them on Sunday, and came home and wrote a short fic (it already has 300 hits and 40 kudos and 6 comment threads! What is this madness? Oh right, it's the magic of an active fandom. That and a few nice people who have read my stuff before).

I'm going to go see it again with krastakin & M & V tonight.

I may even buy the comics.

I'm just floating on this, I'm so happy. Puzzled, but so happy. I mean, I know it's not the best piece of media ever, it has a totally unnecessarily sexist twist at the end, it pretends to uphold the general dignity of man vs. class issues, but, um, not really in the slightest; well. It makes me happy.

Other things:
-I have been beta-ing things all month. Really really all month. I thought I had finished the last thing I had promised to do, but then krastakin asked me if I could look at her story when we were arranging Kingsman tickets today. I shall never be without something to beta and this is good for my soul. Well, bad for my writing output, but even so.

-Sam and I went to the Carter Observatory to look through the Thomas Cooke refractor at Jupiter, in opposition. Not far past sunset on a summer night wasn't the best viewing time - v. hazy - but I got to see three of the four Galilean moons, which I never had before, which made it worth the visit. The two astronomers on duty were very friendly and chatted about local societies & useful astronomy apps.

-I have a job interview next week for a job I really want. I'm delighted I made it to interview stage: I applied to work with this organization four years ago and I didn't make it this far at that time.

-Joel and I first moved in together 8 years ago! Wellington leases tend to follow the university semester, and everyone changes places in Jan/Feb. We don't do much for Valentine's Day as Valentine's Day; instead, it is the anniversary of the first time we woke up together in a house we both lived in. Will think of something Valentine-y to do for Sam.

-Also lost my wallet on Sunday - innocently dropped it into a shopping bag that had a giant hole in it - but I was full of happy feelings about Kingsman, so this was just a blip on the radar.

Finally: Crantz has opened sign-ups for Once Upon a Fic, a fanfic exchange based on fairy tales, tall tales, legends, ballads, mythology, and similar things. I've signed up! Currently we have 17 sign-ups and I think we're okay for matching, but the more the merrier.

Date: 2015-02-13 12:10 am (UTC)
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Yay fannishness!

Date: 2015-02-13 12:23 am (UTC)
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I was unable to get the SBS website and a proxy server to play nicely enough for me to watch Episode 5 or 6, and I'm told that the DVD has been shipped and is somewhere between Australia and New Jersey at the moment, so I decided to wait until the DVD shows up to finish the season.

Date: 2015-02-15 04:14 pm (UTC)
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I'm going to see Kingsman soon, on your recommendation, but I will probably finish S2 later today.

Date: 2015-02-18 05:35 pm (UTC)
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Have you seen the new Agent Carter yet? There's a connection to Kingsman I want to discuss with you.

Date: 2015-02-18 08:25 pm (UTC)
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Well, let's talk about it here, then. Obviously the movie theater scene in some senses was similar to the church scene from Kingsman... a pseudoscientific device created by a reclusive billionaire being employed to turn everyone into murderous rage monsters. I thought that Agent Carter handled it a lot better, in general: Ten seconds instead of several minutes, not celebrating a major good guy character triumphing in the melee, in general better appreciating the gruesomeness of the device.

But at the same time, there's a part of me going "Howard Stark invented this device? Why would he do that? Maybe he is working with Leviathan, because only that kind of demonic bastard would create such a weapon." I look forward to seeing his explanation in the finale, if it comes, because without a justification I'm not seeing, I think I might conclude that the cruelty, no, the sheer evil of the device overshoots where Marvel wants us to categorize Howard Stark, morally.

Date: 2015-02-19 02:08 pm (UTC)
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The other impression of Stark in Captain America is as an incredibly brave man who is incredibly loyal to his friends and willing to do foolish things to protect them. That's the Howard Stark, I think, that Peggy remembers when she chooses to trust him.

I liked the way the dialogue between Valentine and Gazelle, following the church scene, highlighted what a monstrous thing Valentine had done, and how monstrously he compartmentalized it.

I didn't have that feeling. I mean, obviously it was monstrous, but it was also a callback to an earlier line that'd been delivered for comic effect. So it felt like it was being given as a punchline to a joke rather than as a real illustration of Valentine's depravity.

(And Bridget Regan's scenes as a demure mother/expecting mother were delightful.)


I am wondering if Item 17 was the precise device employed at Finnau (or is it Thurnau?).

Yes, I think this is likely, but we've learned so little about what happened there that it doesn't explain in any way Stark's behavior. All I can say is that the finale is going to have to carry a lot of narrative weight.

Date: 2015-02-26 12:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inevitableentresol
When I read this post, I was perversely glad that you'd been busy with other people's betas, even though that makes no sense. Just because I have made zero progress on the fic I was going to send you.

Thanks in the meantime for being an excellent sounding board.

I also think I already did a beta for a Once Upon A Fic fic without even knowing it. I responded randomly to a request on LJ. Whoever gets that fic will be very lucky as it's great.

Thanks for the rec for Kingsmen. Look forward to catching its.

I know that feeling of getting hugely and suddenly into a thing. It's so great. That was me last year with Tiger & Bunny. And I'm a big shipper, but for that shipping isn't the thing, which doubles the intensity perhaps, for something to grab me differently than usual.

Date: 2015-02-26 06:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inevitableentresol
This is not only the first time I've run a Big Bang, it's the first time I've even taken part in a Big Bang. Heh heh heh. And you know how well my last longfic went.

Luckily this Big Bang is for WIPs as well as complete fics, so I'm going to use it to update an existing WIP for that fandom. As long as I hit another 10,000 words I'll have succeeded. That's not too much for me these days. As long as I can actually stay writing on the fic I'm supposed to be on. That's the only issue I already know I'm going to have a problem with.

So far, I'm doing a lot less writing because of all the organisation involved. But that will die down after a few weeks, and the whole thing makes me feel so positive. We're still in sign ups so it's still the fun part. Matching will be the first frustration, I predict. But there are no recipients, so at least matching will be easier than in an exchange.

I did get the impression that you didn't endorse Kingsmen 100%. But it obviously sparked your creativity, which is almost more valuable. These days, that's what I mainly look for in my media.

I really, really like Wild Tiger. I fell in head over heels in love with him. But you're right. He is a really annoying type. He means well, but he's not too bright. He's a one man wrecking ball. like Jar Jar Binks in a silly beard and sillier outfit. Thor is a similar character that came to mind. I couldn't stand Thor in his own film. I don't know why I find Wild Tiger charming, but I do. I admire his optimism the most.

I bought the manga first, because the import DVDs were far too expensive. I since found somewhere I could hire them for a fraction of the price so I'm watching them now. I don't think I'd have fell in love with it so hard if I'd seen the anime first, or if the first version I'd seen was the English dub. The English dub voices are great apart from Wild Tiger's, and his is the most important voice. The Japanese Wild Tiger is so much better (and sexier). I tend to watch each episode twice. First in Japanese for Wild Tiger. The next time in English for everyone else. The dub translations are good and the jokes are funnier in English.

The multicultural background is a breath of fresh air, as are the variety of ages involved. I don't watch many animes. The sameface teenagers put me off. and I love, love the design of Stern Bild, even though it's completely ridiculous.

I'm glad my lack of fic for you to beta has been useful, no matter in whatever tangential way. I can tell you're being a little kind, but thank you anyway. No fic is forthcoming in the imminent future, but you can pretend it is if you like. Careful! I'm about to drop a 60,000 word bomb on yo' ass next week! (not really)

fanfic writer matching advice?

Date: 2015-03-05 07:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inevitableentresol
Hello again. I'd like to ask your advice about something.

I'm about to do matching for the Big Bang I'm running. It's different to Fic Mountain or Once Upon a fic in that there's no gift exchange element and I only need to match writers with betas, artists etc.

I've composed a form asking what subject matter people do and don't want to be matched up with, what time zone they're in, what special knowledge they might have that would be helpful (languages etc). But I get the feeling I've missed something really obvious. It's the first time I've done anything like this.

I posted a draft here but only check it out if you want and you have time.

Any advice would be great about matching in general. You're an old hand at this. Don't worry if you're too busy to reply, I'll post this in the next few days anyway.

I nearly saw Kingsman at the cinema last week. But then Shaun the Sheep was still on, and it had to win because it's Aardman. It was really good. I had to stop myself from laughing so loud and spoiling the film for others. I hear Jupiter Ascending is hugely fun as well. Oscars season is busy season. I wish I could go see them all!

Re: fanfic writer matching advice?

Date: 2015-03-05 08:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] inevitableentresol
That was really useful, thank you.

We already gathered emails at initial sign up. We also have a shared email account for the Big Bang. Although we're trying to keep most activity on DW and tumblr this year. That was the feedback last year, that community spirit was lost when the move was made to email.

I'll definitely add a question about if they're willing to work with more than one writer. A lot of them have signed up for both beta and cheerleader, or cheerleader and fanmixer etc. So I'll have to be clear about what I'm asking as it could get complicated.

I'll also have to think about what our response should be to writers/betas/artists etc turning down each other. I didn't even think of that. I should try to make that as painless as possible for each party so everyone can still get along.

I'll include that information at initial preference stating, telling them the process for asking for another assignment when I work it out.

We're luckier than a fic exchange because our teams are public right from the start. There's no secret matching process involved, so hopefully we'll keep everyone together this year.

There probably will be a time when we need email templates, like for informing people about deadlines, so I'll keep that in mind.

Thanks a lot! You're always so helpful.

Date: 2015-02-13 04:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] elanya
Oooh, good luck with the interview :D

And I will keep an eye out for this movie!

Date: 2015-02-14 07:02 am (UTC)
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I tentatively suggest you skip the comic - Mark Millar is a very miss and rarely hit kind of author.


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